Sharyn Alfonsi: If I I went to the Mercedes dealership and I said, “I would like that car. And they said, “OK, you’re gonna have to wait five years,” they’d be out of business.

Pierre-Alexis Dumas: But you’re talking about industrial production. You’re applying your thinking structure of industrial production to craft. We’re about craft. We’re not machines. And we are not compromising on the quality of the way we make the bags. So if the craftsperson is not at the level, his or her bag would not go into the store.

Sharyn Alfonsi: Even if they’ve invested that 20 or 30 hours making it?

Pierre-Alexis Dumas: Yeah.

Sharyn Alfonsi: And there’s no way of speeding it up and keeping quality–

Pierre-Alexis Dumas: Well, speed is the structuring value of the 20th century. We went from horse carriages to the internet. Are we going to be so obsessed with speed and immediate satisfaction? Maybe not? Maybe there is another form of relation to the world, which is linked to patience. To taking the time of making things right. You cannot compress time, at one point, without compromising on quality.